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By Kellnerin (Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 08:37:05 PM EST) (all tags)
Now that would have been a much better title for a WFC story than "Broken Glass." Damned if I know what it means, though.


FIRST OF ALL, I guess I should apologize. I had nothing new to say in this WFC. My entry could probably be summed up as "Homecoming" crossed with "Desired" -- arguably my two weakest WFC efforts to date (which raises the question, Do I ever learn? Don't answer that.) I'd like to blame the theme for the "oh no not this story again" thing but obviously, even when the theme is "Death and Rebirth" or "Food," I go to that place anyway. I actually had a nearly completed story along similar lines for WFC6, "Roads," but it sucked, so I chose not to inflict it upon the WFC-reading populace at large (you ungrateful fucks -- kidding!)

So, "Broken Glass." When I saw loneliness was part of the theme I actually tried to think how I could not end up treading over the same territory, so I started with the object instead. The Coke bottle immediately popped into mind, for no particular reason. I thought I ripped it off from an image in clock's unfinished WFC6 entry that I found particularly striking, but it turns out that was rusty beer cans. So I'm not sure where it came from, really, but that's where I started. And wherever I begin, my inclination is always to go backwards, mixing the thematic loneliness with nostalgia. (Is someone remembering something? It must be a Kellnerin story!)

The formula for Melissa (who is thisclose to being one of ana's characters -- and in fact was at one point named Maria -- only Melissa died, which happens to so many of my characters, and to hardly any of ana's) is something like the intersection of bottle and nostalgia plus the word "fiber." It (the word) reminded me of a friend of mine who worked for a company that (among other things) developed synthetic textiles, and from whom I stole the line "I just wanted to integrate, and now all I'm doing is disintegrating."

Somewhere during the course of working on the story Emily appeared, and I'm grateful to her (in the way that some writers occasionally have neurotic feelings of gratitude, frustration, love, or anger for their characters) for tipping the balance of the story a little, away from what could have been all-out wallowing on the part of Keith. (Imagine Keith being alone when he finds the glass, and think about how much less you'd probably have liked that story.) I should have treated her better, made her more of a person than a prop or plot point -- maybe, given the chance, she could have rescued that badly told-not-shown section in the middle, between Keith and Melissa's meeting and the bar scene. Sorry, Emily, I'll try to do better by you next time.

I had in mind that Keith was this sort of dreamy guy (a fucking idiot, suspects bo -- which may well be true, though I contend he's a well-intentioned fucking idiot. It's also true that I'm in love with my imagery, btw, though I think at times the execution is a little sea-glass rough, not inside-of-bottle polished.) Anyway, Keith -- I imagine him as someone whose mind has a tendency to stray from reality, hence Melissa's voice in the opening section when she's not actually there. This was spelled out more clearly in an earlier draft, but it sounded clunky and I got the urge to be too clever for my own good, and I replaced it with some indirection that was probably a little too indirect.

When I started writing, I wasn't entirely sure what had happened to Melissa to make her absent in the present. Then one or two days in October were seriously foggy in the morning as I drove to the train station and, well, I've never been one to pass up a cheap way to kill off a character. Killing off characters is kind of my go-to plot device. Had it been just a few weeks later (that is, if the deadline had been this week), I'd probably have written something about a storm passing through, and the morning after when the roads frost over for the first time.

Anyway, from my own completely unreliable perspective, I thought it worked better than either "Homecoming" or "Desired," though it's still not quite there yet. I'm fine with that too, as long as I have an idea of what's wrong with it (and I think I do). But I'll try not to write this story again, or at least not submit it to a WFC; that'll be my secondary challenge for next time.


I WAS ALSO GOING to include an apology for my continuing inability to put out a WFC book, but now it seems like people are starting to be WFC-ed out. I'll still finish it, since I (and others) have already put a lot of work into it. If even one person is interested I'll count it as worthwhile, and I'm pretty sure the number of people who are not me but are interested is greater than or equal to zero.

I'm not promising anything before the end of the year, though, because November at work is going to suck. My boss even started to take work away from me so that I have an outside chance of accomplishing what I am responsible for without bending space-time or resorting to a risky cloning procedure. (So lovely to be wanted.)


GIVEN THE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH, I'm not doing NaNo this year. I already kinda miss it, but the not-having-anything-to-say that plagued my WFC entry would be a bigger problem for a NaNo. So, see ya next time, maybe, and good luck to all who are doing it this year. Write an extra 10K for me, OK? (Kidding!)

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WIPO ... by BlueOregon (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 08:54:59 PM EST
-- poll needs to be multiple-select.

Plus: all of the above.

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"The german quoting guy is a little bit out there." (fleece)


I expected by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:16:03 PM EST
your WIPO to be: Zombies!

And while I often have multi-select polls, sometimes you have to make the hard decisions. For instance, I know when I've written myself into a corner where I'll look first for a way out. (I think if I ever write for television it will have to be for a Bryan Fuller show.) Though I included them as options, in my opinion it's better to enact smut than write it, and the other two are merely fun and/or cathartic, without necessarily being a good solution to a writing quandry.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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book... by ana (2.00 / 0) #2 Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 08:58:18 PM EST
we'll see who wins, you, or johnny. No pressure. ;-)

Also, you're entirely too subtle. I missed the fact that Melissa had died. Makes sense, now that I know the answer to the riddle. Did somebody die in the Roads story also?

And it's cool that you uploaded all your WFC stories to your filespace at husi.

Power up your flaming yo-yos already! --StackyMcRacky


OH my! by johnny (4.00 / 1) #8 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:17:18 AM EST
Somehow I had neglected to note that my anamuensis and I were locked in a head-to-head procrastinator's footrace.  Well, now that does cast a different light on things, doesn't it?
... this is dreamworld after all... it isn't? Shit.
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You can win... by ana (4.00 / 1) #9 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 09:32:04 AM EST
just by keeping the waitress rolling in manuscript.

Seriously, I'm looking forward to reading the dead-tree edition of your latest.

Power up your flaming yo-yos already! --StackyMcRacky
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neglect by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #12 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:41:49 PM EST
I even stole your formulation, I'm going to post the layout for this sucker by the end of the month, or die trying. The date on that is nearly two and a half months ago.

Notice how I haven't needled you for chapters in that time, nor did I mention how long ago I edited the chapters that you just posted ...

Last one to finish buys lunch/dinner, whaddya say?

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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Deal and, by johnny (4.00 / 1) #18 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 11:23:14 PM EST
whoever buys must also come to said appointment with pencil in hair.

Since that would be quite  a challenge for me, that will be added incentive.
... this is dreamworld after all... it isn't? Shit.
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indeed by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:36:12 PM EST
Place your bets now. I have the edge in percent-already-completed, and in that I'm partial gatekeeper or whatnot for johnny's book but, as you noted, he has the edge in that I'll drop any project to do his chapters ...

Re: Melissa -- what, didn't you read closely enough!? Hrm. Obviously I need to massage this one a little, find the right slant to put on it.

No one died in my Roads story (they just broke up). Here's the official Kellnerin WFC death toll (spoilers, obviously):

WFC1: Phenom's parents via exploding house, Nom himself by midget vampire, Ed Hulver if you count dying as a prereq for being undead
WFC2: Most of the world's population (but that was a consequence of the challenge, and not my fault), Evan's wife and Katrin's mother (who may or may not have been the same person), Katrin's father (if it wasn't Evan), Nana
WFC3: Anastasia's mother, Anastasia's father (faked)
WFC4: No one except some chestnuts
WFC5: No one
WFC6: No one
WFC7: Melissa (and a Coke bottle)

So, I guess I went three WFCs in a row without killing anyone, though I'm still working off some debt from rounds 1-3 so that my average is still above one death per WFC.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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Where the loneliness lay (lied, was lying down?) by 2 plus 3 equals 5 (2.00 / 0) #3 Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 11:29:57 PM EST

The loneliness wasn't the narrators, it was Melissa's, and that's what made this more interesting.

As for the book, interest is greater than zero.

-- Do the math.


thanks by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:43:15 PM EST
I think there was plenty of loneliness to go around in the story. Melissa's is perhaps the most poignant, but it certainly was oddly contagious among my characters.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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Like ana by hulver (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 03:16:18 AM EST
I also missed that Melissa had died. I was a bit confused as to why she was missing, I thought she'd just left him.

Also. WFC book. I am still interested (sorry).
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smart, pretty, sane. pick two - georgeha


why sorry? by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:49:12 PM EST
Interest in the book is good. I will finish it, really I will. Then y'all can pressure spacejack to do the illustrations.

Apparently I was too foggy on Melissa's fate. But even without that (don't read this unless you want to hear the author ruin the story), I figured it was one of those stupid things between them where because of the way they met, it seems like they can never get together in a romantic way, so instead he ends up with her best friend. This is why things like "The Code" or "The Rules" or "The friends ladder" are evil. Anyway, they'd never have ended up together, even though perhaps they should have.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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Sorry, by hulver (4.00 / 1) #20 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 06:09:57 AM EST
Because now you'll have to finish it! Also, I got the "right for each other, but will never be together" vibe. I'm glad I actually got something right.
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smart, pretty, sane. pick two - georgeha
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book by fleece (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 05:17:17 AM EST
i'm still keen i just didn't want to nag! if there's anything i can do to help...



stay tuned by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 09:22:06 PM EST
I may find something you can help with yet.

I've also missed your entry for the last couple WFCs. Hope that you find the time/inspiration to join in a future one.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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i know the timing has been terrible for me by fleece (2.00 / 0) #19 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 12:57:43 AM EST
my life kind of fell apart for a while there

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sorry to hear that by Kellnerin (4.00 / 1) #21 Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 09:11:28 AM EST
Your life sticking together is more important than participating in games like these. If you ever want random Internet strangers rooting for you to get out of a rut, however, you know where to look ...

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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I don't think by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 06:32:54 AM EST

people are particularly WFC-d out. I'd still get the book anyway. The last bit of my comment was intended more as a spur-to-action / call-to-arms than a "shut the f*ck up", but it wasn't that well-written so probably didn't come across properly.

I cede all ownership of that metaphor to you.


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26 days left ...


I'm not sure by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:56:13 PM EST
I know what to do with the metaphor, though "Great mouth, no doubt, but the lack of trouser is an issue" is one of my favorite critiques of my work ever, I think. It's the kind of thing I'd like to work into everyday conversation. Well, maybe next time I want someone to look at me as if I've grown a third head.

Although I take issue with the stance that WFCs are here to satisfy the readers, I don't particularly disagree with the premise that we should do better than tread water. While I like to think there's value (at least selfishly) in simply giving it a try and seeing what sticks, we should aim high, rather than settling for the safe, same-old same-old.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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"Punch BO in the arm!" by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 2) #7 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 07:29:24 AM EST
That should be the ad campaign for some particularly manly man brand of deodorant.

"Take that BO!"



thank you by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 08:59:38 PM EST
I can now summon hysterical laughter on demand simply by thinking of this comment.

(Red Sox! Yes! Wooo!)

Actually, I think I am just particularly susceptible to hysterical laughter these days. My next WFC story won't be funny at all, but I'll find it hilarious.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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Actually by Scrymarch (2.00 / 0) #22 Thu Nov 22, 2007 at 03:33:28 PM EST
I thought the talking wallet story was yours. Apparently I was one-quarter right.

Bundling all those stories together in my review was a bit harsh. That sort of moody reflectiveness just isn't my genre is all, I have to work harder to engage with it.

The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo



no worries by Kellnerin (2.00 / 0) #23 Fri Nov 23, 2007 at 11:22:39 PM EST
I took no offense at your commentary (or anyone's really, on the whole) -- and as evidenced by my own post-mortem, I'm frustrated by the genre myself despite (or rather, because of) the fact that I keep slipping into it.

I actually enjoyed the talking wallet story more, because at least there was something different going on there, even if it was perhaps a bit more puzzle-story than it should have been. Alas, I was not imaginative enough this time to come up with that on my own. And when it came to the writing of my part of it, I got too much into the internal monologue of the character (again, Kellnerin, sheesh) -- having to incorporate the events of the story kept getting in my way. It grew in this sort of forced-organic way, like vegetables that end up cube-shaped because of being grown in a box. A curiosity, maybe, fascinating in its own way, but not necessarily something you want to consume.

I think that the great disappointments in WFCs (or maybe fiction in general) fall into two categories -- careful execution lavished on a story that doesn't have enough to say to be worth the effort, and ideas that don't live up to their potential due to lack of execution. This time round, I managed to commit both crimes.

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"Late to the party" is the new "ahead of the curve" -- CRwM
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No court would convict by Scrymarch (4.00 / 1) #24 Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 07:06:24 AM EST
Untrousered mouth sounds kind of suburban smutty. "He mournfully followed her jeans across the food court with his untrousered mouth."

The Political Science Department of the University of Woolloomooloo

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